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		<title>By: bbqchickenrobot</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbqchickenrobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JavaFX running on Android: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYy4j9x2Mi4&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JavaFX running on Android: </p>
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		<title>By: Blog Excilys &#187; JavaFX a-t-il un avenir ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog Excilys &#187; JavaFX a-t-il un avenir ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Myths about JavaFX, Android, and J2ME : &#171;&#160;Java is NOT on most devices (that matter)&#160;&#187;, entre autres&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JavaFX, Android, and J2ME &#171; createTank</title>
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		<dc:creator>JavaFX, Android, and J2ME &#171; createTank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iphone application developers</title>
		<link>http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/comment-page-1/#comment-4487</link>
		<dc:creator>iphone application developers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also facing the problem with Java in my iPhone. I think we have to setup VM first and then try to install it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also facing the problem with Java in my iPhone. I think we have to setup VM first and then try to install it.</p>
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		<title>By: asj</title>
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		<dc:creator>asj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, just so you know, the number one mobile browser in the world is a Java ME app, called Opera Mini. This runs on almost any cellphone, and is one of the most successful J2ME apps out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, just so you know, the number one mobile browser in the world is a Java ME app, called Opera Mini. This runs on almost any cellphone, and is one of the most successful J2ME apps out there.</p>
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		<title>By: asj</title>
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		<dc:creator>asj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Java ME is on most devices in the world. The problem is that here in the US most people focus on Blackberry (which has a compatible Java ME environment so J2ME apps do run on it) and iPhone, while outside the US, and especially in Asia, most apps are actually Java ME and run on the Nokias, Sony&#039;s, etc in those countries.

Also, since people write in Java for the Google Android environment, one could say that IS Java, or at least Java compatible. I don&#039;t care about the &quot;brand&quot;, simply the programming environment, as do all developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Java ME is on most devices in the world. The problem is that here in the US most people focus on Blackberry (which has a compatible Java ME environment so J2ME apps do run on it) and iPhone, while outside the US, and especially in Asia, most apps are actually Java ME and run on the Nokias, Sony&#8217;s, etc in those countries.</p>
<p>Also, since people write in Java for the Google Android environment, one could say that IS Java, or at least Java compatible. I don&#8217;t care about the &#8220;brand&#8221;, simply the programming environment, as do all developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Víctor Orozco (tuxtor) 's status on Monday, 14-Sep-09 06:14:25 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Víctor Orozco (tuxtor) 's status on Monday, 14-Sep-09 06:14:25 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Interesante articulo respecto a JavaFX http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mobile Application Development</title>
		<link>http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/comment-page-1/#comment-4138</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Application Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you say that there is no Java VM going with an iPhone - how do I install Java apps on it? I&#039;ve read about many people who do it.
Do I have to find and setup a Java VM first, and only then I may install java on the device?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you say that there is no Java VM going with an iPhone &#8211; how do I install Java apps on it? I&#8217;ve read about many people who do it.<br />
Do I have to find and setup a Java VM first, and only then I may install java on the device?</p>
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		<title>By: andry12</title>
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		<dc:creator>andry12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you can find out what phones or other mobile devices are running Android OS? Phones that are running Linux of course not, but linux is linux, it works even on mobile devices, I think that the phones with the Android OS will be as reliable!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you can find out what phones or other mobile devices are running Android OS? Phones that are running Linux of course not, but linux is linux, it works even on mobile devices, I think that the phones with the Android OS will be as reliable!</p>
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		<title>By: Google Android: “Hallo Welt” in 30 Minuten » wuestenigel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google Android: “Hallo Welt” in 30 Minuten » wuestenigel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] der offiziellen Android-Seite findet man zunächst eine gute Architekturübersicht. Außerdem sind Mythen über Android, JavaFX und J2ME sehr [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] der offiziellen Android-Seite findet man zunächst eine gute Architekturübersicht. Außerdem sind Mythen über Android, JavaFX und J2ME sehr [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chone</title>
		<link>http://www.bitsandbuzz.com/article/myths-about-javafx-android-and-j2me/comment-page-1/#comment-3881</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Russell I am confused, are you saying that Android is Java based?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russell I am confused, are you saying that Android is Java based?</p>
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		<title>By: k s</title>
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		<dc:creator>k s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J2ME is on all/most nokia, sony ericsson, samsung, lg, motorola, blackberry, ... that would give it a 75%-80% worldwide market share. So its the no 1 platform for developing on it games, business apps, ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J2ME is on all/most nokia, sony ericsson, samsung, lg, motorola, blackberry, &#8230; that would give it a 75%-80% worldwide market share. So its the no 1 platform for developing on it games, business apps, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most small devices (such as phones, including Android) are based on ARM.  A now mandatory part of the ARM architecture is hardware based Java bytecode interpretor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle

This means Ellison was right.  On small platforms, Java is more or less ubiquitous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most small devices (such as phones, including Android) are based on ARM.  A now mandatory part of the ARM architecture is hardware based Java bytecode interpretor.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle</a></p>
<p>This means Ellison was right.  On small platforms, Java is more or less ubiquitous.</p>
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		<title>By: createtank.com &#187; JavaFX, Android, and J2ME</title>
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		<dc:creator>createtank.com &#187; JavaFX, Android, and J2ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Google App Engine SDK for Java &#171; c# to javascript, actionscript</title>
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		<dc:creator>Google App Engine SDK for Java &#171; c# to javascript, actionscript</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Android SDK cross-compiles Java code to Android native bytecode.    Comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jethro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jethro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 07:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While JavaFX doesn&#039;t run on all the current phones that have Java installed (which is simply because they have no update mechanism built in and that J2ME has been quite fragmented which has led to all sorts of problems - as Bob pointed out), I would expect to see it starting to appear on devices (such as Nokia&#039;s and Blackberry&#039;s) over the next year or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While JavaFX doesn&#8217;t run on all the current phones that have Java installed (which is simply because they have no update mechanism built in and that J2ME has been quite fragmented which has led to all sorts of problems &#8211; as Bob pointed out), I would expect to see it starting to appear on devices (such as Nokia&#8217;s and Blackberry&#8217;s) over the next year or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter if it does not have a JavaVM it is not Java based. It&#039;s like saying GWT is Java based.

BTW, I would love to be proven wrong on #4. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter if it does not have a JavaVM it is not Java based. It&#8217;s like saying GWT is Java based.</p>
<p>BTW, I would love to be proven wrong on #4.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point 3 is true in only the most pedantic sense.  True, Dalvik doesn&#039;t run Java bytecode, but the only code it runs out of the box is Java bytecode compiled to a .dex file.  The only time this makes a difference is if you&#039;re generating bytecode at runtime, or if a feature doesn&#039;t make its way to Dalvik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point 3 is true in only the most pedantic sense.  True, Dalvik doesn&#8217;t run Java bytecode, but the only code it runs out of the box is Java bytecode compiled to a .dex file.  The only time this makes a difference is if you&#8217;re generating bytecode at runtime, or if a feature doesn&#8217;t make its way to Dalvik.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob (Buffone)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob (Buffone)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jethro - I go to JavaOne every year and there are 10 mobile phone vendors there with Java on there phones and Java is on all blue ray devices and on chips and on the desktop for a total of 10 billion devices with Java on it.

There are probably that many devices with Java but it doesn&#039;t matter.  The problem is all the versions and capabilities are different for each device and it is impossible to distribute software easily to the devices.  

I can&#039;t even get JavaFX to run in the browser on my machine because for some reason the latest JVM won&#039;t install, runs fine as a desktop application but not in the browser.

So it doesn&#039;t even matter if there are or not that many devices, Java as a language is awesome I think but as an end-user application platform it still has a ways to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jethro &#8211; I go to JavaOne every year and there are 10 mobile phone vendors there with Java on there phones and Java is on all blue ray devices and on chips and on the desktop for a total of 10 billion devices with Java on it.</p>
<p>There are probably that many devices with Java but it doesn&#8217;t matter.  The problem is all the versions and capabilities are different for each device and it is impossible to distribute software easily to the devices.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even get JavaFX to run in the browser on my machine because for some reason the latest JVM won&#8217;t install, runs fine as a desktop application but not in the browser.</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t even matter if there are or not that many devices, Java as a language is awesome I think but as an end-user application platform it still has a ways to go.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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